COLOR=#87F717> I'm an attorney and I work on the average about 80 hours per week. I mention this because it's 4:00 Monamia, I don't envy you right now. You should be commended for maintaining your poise, handling We don't stick with the ladder long term just for rank, skilled opponents or socializing. It is the I'm an average Cases member, don't chase the ladder, and don't have time to play as much as I'd
Pamela Wilson-Gebhart - 03:15am Aug 23, 2000 PST
am, I have to be in court in 4 hrs. and I've just spent hours reading all the posts I could find on this
site regarding the Cases/Won issue and working on this post. I haven't even touched our Cases
Euchre forum yet. This is not a rational act and I'm not an irrational person (yes, I can hear the
lawyer jokes already.) I mention this only because it is just one telling example of the future
ramifications of WON's unbelievable poor business judgment. Cases ladder members are
passionate, pursuasive, independent, resourceful, loyal and very sophistocated consumers, who
have enormous recruiting power. The tremendous growth of WON in a short period of time proves the
point. The breadth of Cases members backgrounds, talents, and interests is incredible.
this situation diplomatically, and your loyalty to WON/Flipside. However, your sympathetic, but
nebulous replies demonstate WON's astonishing lack of knowledge about the nature of Cases and
how it has promoted the growth of WON. Cases members really do understand, probably better than
many gamers, that "clicks" and "flips" are synonymous to income for WON/Flipside. It's the reason
why your replies sound so glib and patronizing to us. Please understand that it's also clear you don't
intend them to be. Ladder Bux truly are the joke of the ladder. They're like Green Stamps, everyone
collects them but throws them in a drawer, never to be seen or used. We'd have tourney's
regardless. Cases members are so loyal to their site, they'd click a zillion times on ads to get in the
ladder room, post a report or discussion, or join a tourney. If they had to click an extra time for flips
they'd gripe loudly but do it anyway.
combination of all of these happening in a civil venue that's so successful. Every auto-report site I've
played has a sterile feel and I haven't returned. There is no personal responsibility or real effort
required of the players to maintain the site. As a result, obnoxious players take over, start feuds, and
avoid new players. In our Euchre ladder room it is a badge of honor to assist, protect, and encourage
newbies. The minute I ask in the lobby for players to help welcome a newbie in their first game, I'm
likely to have a TT or veteran member join the game within seconds. In fact, I can't remember ever
waiting longer than a minute when I make the request. Many of us make a point to ask newbies to
partner with us in tourneys. This is exactly how your site has grown. As for the social rooms-well ...
there is nothing quite like a stranger at your table starting to cybersex in the middle of a card game
(I'm not making this up, it happened with my young neice in the room, and it's not unusual behavior.)
I wonder what your sponsors might think of that? I go to a rated room if I wanted to play an opp more
than once a day or to learn.
like. I'm only one person and, seemingly, way too busy to be bothered with this. Regardless, I'll be
searching for addresses to all of WON's sponsor's, Hoyle and WON company boardmembers,
executives, marketing etc. to send a letter of protest. I encourage everyone else to do the same,
because the main rule of business NEVER changes, "the customer is always right." Technology
comes and goes rapidly, but a core customer base does not. And the main point of my rambling
post - if anyone already has an organized database of this information, I'd really appreciate it. I've
never done anything like this but am ready to take it on. pjwg@lanminds.net
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