Before we lose all common sense here consider Yahoo a couple years back. Case's Ladders had links on the Yahoo game pages and were considered the predominant ladder in several games. Then Yahoo decided to install their own ladder system, complete with aoutomatic reporting. The same panic ahead of the change over went on and when the dust settled, the players realized they were case's. They kept right on playing in the open ladder rooms at Yahoo. Keep in mind Case's has always been independant of Won as far as the ladder is concerned. The tourneys may end, but as long as Won is a free game site where all are welcome to play nobody can prevent you from reporting your loss to another web site. As long as the players choose to use the ladder, and case continues to maintain it, Cases ladder games can be played on any game table here, because it is only your reporting a loss that makes it a ladder match. Nobody at Won can prevent you from reporting to case's or any other site you choose to. So concentrate whatever energy you will on the issue of tourneys, but the ladder isn't going anywhere unless Case decides to close it down.