I truly believe that Flipside will not change their position on allowing Case to remain. What we have to concern ourselves with is Case upholding the ladder for us PERIOD. WON cannot tell us where to report our matches. If I want to play a match with someone and we both agree to post at a Case ladder at Yahoo or Gamesgrid or any other site for that matter WON cannot do squat to stop that. What we need to concentrate on is Case maintaining the ladder for us to report to without the affiliation at WON.We need to show Case how much we value it in order for them to maintain it. I hate to say it but Flipside dosen't give a flip about the players and the protests, they are protecting their interests and if 700 players were to leave tommorrow they would get 700 new ones in no time that know nothing about this problem just because it's a superior gaming site despite it's annoying server. We all know it's a great site or we would have left a long time ago. Flood Jeremy Case with e-mails on how much you value the ladder and hope he keeps it active for us.